Posted 2006-07-09 2:20 PM (#317 - in reply to #267) Subject: RE: Chevy Truck Duramax or gas?
Posts: 31
Location: Danielsville,Ga.
Originally written by Too L Ranch on 2006-07-08 10:38 PM
POSITIVE that we get the same mileage, towing or not, with all of the diesels. That is a diesel is supposed to do. The day we buy one that doesn't, it will get booted out of the fleet. As an aside, the HD2500 has 140,000 miles on it and has had one repair that was not regular maintenance (cost $1,000).
I don't believe you get the same mileage and i don't believe you get 21 MPG towing,both claims are Bs,and you can not back them up.Denial is not a river in Egypt.
Posted 2006-07-10 7:01 AM (#318 - in reply to #267) Subject: RE: Chevy Truck Duramax or gas?
Posts: 16
Location: Central Kentucky
Originally written by MIfarmbabe on 2006-07-09 7:24 AM
"I said the Chevy 2500 had LESS head room, leg room and the interior was narrower than our Ford F-350. The tires were wimpy, on the Chevy we test drove. They sure didn't look like they belonged on a 4x4 truck, more like a sedan. The rear seats were like sitting on a stadium bench, not good in my opinion. As far as your "hip room" remark, your probably right. I'm sure you've never had hips in your truck, so you wouldn't know. " Quote by KYhorseychic
My '04 Dmax has those so-called "wimpy tires" you saw on a Dmax and I have 40,000 miles on them with no problems and I tow a 3 horse slant LQ gooseneck. They are wearing well and still have decent tread on them. They are rated for towing and I'll probably go the 50,000 miles on them before I replace them with the same.
How do you know what size tires was on the Duramax I was looking at? At the dealer all the trucks had different types of tires on them( some narrower, some wider, some with off road tread, etc..). The Duramax had smaller tires on it than the 1500 Silverado next to it. I gave my opinion about the Duramax I looked at. Not yours, your neighbors, or your friends. Bottom line- I think you get more truck for the money with Ford than Chevy. It's nothing personal about your all's Chevy's. I liked my Ford better than the Chevy I looked at. I'm entitled to my opinion. In my opinion the Duramax had "wimpy tires" was over-priced, and the interior couldn't compare to my Lariat.
Posted 2006-07-10 7:10 AM (#319 - in reply to #267) Subject: RE: Chevy Truck Duramax or gas?
Posts: 16
Location: Central Kentucky
Originally written by Broken Bit on 2006-07-09 8:43 AM
What the world is all the fuss about, nobody will ever agree on this aguement, that's why the say "different strokes for different folks" Why don't you all get yourselves a good ole' '83 Toyota four banger like I drive? I have absolutely no problem pullin' any of our trailers (even double decked cattle trailers) and there's PLENTY on interior room. Great fuel mileage AND only four, that's right, count 'em FOUR lug nuts to keep an eye on. Tires are cheap and can be located at any discount store or yard sale!! If we leave our tailgates off we can expect to see upwards of 37 mpg. With the missing muffler you can get some sound out of these babys that would put a 12 valve Cummins to shame. I'm tellin y'all this is the way to go, for sure, absolutley. We wouldn't have anything else (except MAYBEE a Chevy Luv) on the ranch!!
P.S. Kyhorsechick, please send more info on the Ford C.C. you have for sale, if it's a 4x4. I may be, I mean.... I may know someone that is interested! What color is it?
Well,maybe we'll trade ya for your 83 Toyota..LOL. I think we'll be keeping the Ford for now. If we decide to sell, I'll list it on this website. BTW. It is a 4x4, crew cab dually, long bed, Lariat, Midnight Blue ( very dark navy blue ) is the exterior color with the camel-colored leather interior. Beautiful truck.
Posted 2006-07-10 9:31 AM (#322 - in reply to #267) Subject: RE: Chevy Truck Duramax or gas?
Posts: 615
Location: THE GREAT NORTHWET, OREGON(THE REAL GODS COUNTRY)
Thats why they make different trucks......it is all in they eye of the beholder,just like women and men in a bar.Keep drinkin till they'r pretty.My diesel does drop in fuel milage when towing 15000 pounds, but My friends gas job gets what I get and his truck is empty.
IT"S ALL A MATTER OF TASTE,wimpy tires and all.
TEE HEEE HEEE ""is that a chicken your riden or are those your legs ?"
Posted 2006-07-10 8:05 PM (#323 - in reply to #267) Subject: RE: Chevy Truck Duramax or gas?
Posts: 39
Location: Northern, CA
Eat your heart out :o) The 2500 Duramax kicks ass, buddy! Got to admit, the Dodge looks way cooler - but we go for the known performance! The Kodiaks only get 11 to 12 mpg, but they are towing 18,000 to 20,000 lbs.
Posted 2006-07-10 10:31 PM (#324 - in reply to #267) Subject: RE: Chevy Truck Duramax or gas?
Posts: 51
Location: Illinois
Ya know, my old 6.5 turbo diesel doesn't loose much fuel mileage when towing. Might leak a little more oil. Granted I'm not towing anything really that heavy and rarely have more than two horses in it. About the only time it really drops noticeably is if there is a lot of stop and go on the route.
Posted 2006-07-16 6:03 PM (#325 - in reply to #267) Subject: RE: Chevy Truck Duramax or gas?
Posts: 1701
Location: New Mexico
I have made 5 trips (one more to go!!) in my 02 Dodge 2500 from S. Tx to NM and there is a $50 difference in fuel between loaded and unloaded trailer weight. I figured it is becuse I am going up hill to NM and down hill to TX. I haven't tried to figure out the mpg, but it is 856 miles one way. I was surprised because there was a huge difference in loaded/unloaded mpg with my old 03 dodge 1500.
Posted 2006-07-17 10:47 PM (#326 - in reply to #267) Subject: RE: Chevy Truck Duramax or gas?
Posts: 615
Location: THE GREAT NORTHWET, OREGON(THE REAL GODS COUNTRY)
My New FORD gets such good mileage I have to stop and drain some out every now and then just to keep it from spillin over !!I would go with the gas job just for the sake of it so you could pass everything but a gas station.Then you could always wish you would have gone with the diesel!!
Posted 2006-07-18 8:54 AM (#328 - in reply to #267) Subject: RE: Chevy Truck Duramax or gas?
Posts: 615
Location: THE GREAT NORTHWET, OREGON(THE REAL GODS COUNTRY)
I guess thats one good thing about being a diesel mechanic and mechanicaly inclined,I can repair it or troubleshoot it so I don't have to wait.
Most problems with Ford are owner induced....They can't help but change something or idle it for too long, or they buy crappy fuel.
Ford needs a cetane rateing of at least 40 to run right.A good fuel additive will eliminate alot of driver complaints.
There are also some people who should trade their diesel for a bike or skateboard.Then they would still complain they don't have enough power!
It is really hard to design a truck that will over ride stupid,and I have dealt with a lot of owners that ordered a double shot of stupid with their last starbuck order.
Example:
Owners were replacing oem air filters with aftermarket causing trouble codes P0402 in the PCM and will affect diagnostic test results.
They also fire it up and drive a short distance then shut it off.This causes the turbo to stick from build up.This engine likes to be driven not just short trips.
My suggestion is buy a Chevy or Dodge or whatever, this year they have a standard cheez tray to help the operator get more enjoyment with their whine.
Posted 2006-07-18 11:36 AM (#329 - in reply to #267) Subject: RE
Posts: 212
Location: Western WA
FWIW, I get about 15 MPG empty in my 2001 7.3L diesel F350, and 9 MPG pulling a three horse steel slant horse trailer, with one horse. I'm a little dissappointed my mileage is so low under load, but I'm never sorry when it comes time to pull a hill.
Chevy Truck Duramax or gas?
"is that a chicken your riden or are those your legs ?"
Granted I'm not towing anything really that heavy and rarely have more than two horses in it. About the only time it really drops noticeably is if there is a lot of stop and go on the route.