Posted 2005-05-15 5:40 AM (#632) Subject: Truck Buying Time
Posts: 131
Location: Cheyenne, WY
I just sold my 2001 Dodge Dually and am looking to purchase a 3/4 ton or 1 ton for pulling. I don't pull a lot but when I do I want to go.
I am in a toss up between them all, GM, Dodge and Ford. I test drove a 2004 Chevy 2500 with the Duramax. Carfax checked out but I noticed the windows in the quad doors were glued shut. As I drove it down the street I noticed the windows whistled and when I got on the open road the quad door windows made it sound like a wind tunnel in the cab. I hate wind noise. Is this a common problem or is this thing a lemon that Chevy wouldn't fix so that is why it was traded with only 20K on it? Can this be fixed?
I am also looking at a 2004 Ford F250 4x4 auto with the 6.0 Diesel and a 2004 Dodge cumings with the 6 speed. I have heard the Fords had engine problems in the 2004s and the Dodges have had tranny problems. Any Comments?
Posted 2005-05-15 6:35 PM (#633 - in reply to #632) Subject: RE: Truck Buying Time
Posts: 565
Location: Michigan
I have an '04 Duramax 2500 4 door and have had no problems with wind noise. In fact it is quite quiet in the cab area. Why would the windows be glued shut on the one you test drove? Sounds strange to me. Maybe it passed inspection on Carfax but there may have been some previous "accident" that wasn't reported, who knows. I would pass and keep looking. Although I do enjoy my Duramax and its tireless pulling power.
Posted 2005-05-15 7:56 PM (#634 - in reply to #632) Subject: RE: Truck Buying Time
Posts: 7
Location: sparks, nevada
Hi,
I have a 2004 Powerstroke, and had a 2001 Powerstroke. The difference in the power and transmission is awesome, and it is quieter too. I have had a problem with the turbo, which apparnelty a lot of people had, but since it has been repaired, it has been fine.
Posted 2005-05-16 7:54 AM (#635 - in reply to #632) Subject: RE: Truck Buying Time
Cosmopolitan (shaken..not stirred)
Posts: 10442
Location: south of Cowtown, TEXAS
I have a Dodge 3/4 quad cab HO Cummins automatic. I had also heard thru the internet that Dodge had tranny problems, but the 56487641698 people that I know with new Dodges, 6-speed or auto, have had no problems. Actually, no problems whatsoever.
Posted 2005-05-16 10:23 AM (#636 - in reply to #632) Subject: RE: Truck Buying Time
Posts: 634
Location: Tipton, IN
Dodge did indeed have tranny problems on the cummins. Uncle Terry, who works at the Kokomo Chrysler tranny plant, is on number 3 in his 2003 1 ton 4x4 dually, that he regularly tows 10K with. I do know that a new beefed up monster tranny line for the cummins is being brought online in Kokomo for the next generation. I don't know if it is for 06 or 07 though.
Posted 2005-05-16 11:39 AM (#637 - in reply to #632) Subject: RE: Truck Buying Time
Posts: 1212
Location: Southwest OK
2003 was a problem year for Ford's...the 2004 is all clear. Before you look at the dodge, look at resale values...Chevy and Ford hold'em and Dodge's fold'em
Posted 2005-05-18 9:41 AM (#640 - in reply to #632) Subject: RE: Truck Buying Time
Posts: 18
Location: Verona, KY
CRK,
There are a couple BBs you can check to get owners feedback on diesel trucks: thedieselstop.com for Ford, dieseltruckresources.com for Dodge. There are also some for GM but I don't have them handy.
Read these to see which brand has the most transmission problems. I haven't seen much trouble with Dodge unless the engines have been chipped, of course then all bets (and warranty) are off.
Posted 2005-05-18 11:03 AM (#641 - in reply to #632) Subject: RE: Truck Buying Time
Posts: 256
Location: rocky mount nc
For info on GM trucks go to Thedieselpage.com or The Diesel Place, GM-Trucks.com or PickupTruck.com, All have interesting reading but it will be up to you to determine fact from fiction.
Posted 2005-05-18 11:20 AM (#642 - in reply to #632) Subject: RE: Truck Buying Time
Posts: 326
Location: Palmdale, CA
CRK
If you intend to tow heavy, don't get an automatic in any truck. All three have had problems with their autos. If you like the Dodge/Cummins (good choice) get the 6 speed, you will love it, the manual trans is bullet proof in the stock configuaration.
I'm on my second Dodge/Cummins, it has never let me down.
Posted 2005-05-18 10:17 PM (#643 - in reply to #632) Subject: RE: Truck Buying Time
Posts: 131
Location: Cheyenne, WY
RichB
I agree with the idea of having a manual transmission in a tow vehicle. I like the idea of knowing what gear I am in and I can choose the gear I need versus the auto searching for it.
I had heard great things about the allison in the GMs.
I have also read up on some problems Ford has been having with the turbo in the 6.0.
So... I pretty much have decided to go with the Dodge with the cummings and the 6 speed in a 3/4 ton 4x4
Thanks everyone for your great input and bringing me up to speed on the MINI big rigs.
Posted 2005-05-19 6:22 PM (#644 - in reply to #632) Subject: RE: Truck Buying Time
Posts: 105
It may be to late here but we love the allison/duramax system in the GM products. Wife when we first got it was heading home from a lesson and going down a fairly steep hill, hit brakes lightly and the truck droped down a gear and held that all the way down. She was sold then, I had to talk her into this combo. We do not see the hunt and shift problem in towing with it. And I would say that the shifts are smooth and easy. Ours is a 2 wheel drive extended cab long bed. We tow a Trailet windshadow eventer loaded with gear and both horses probaly 9,600 lbs. Also just because we are over trucked for the trailer we have not had to place it in tow/haul mode.
Posted 2005-05-19 7:55 PM (#645 - in reply to #632) Subject: RE: Truck Buying Time
Posts: 18
Location: Verona, KY
CR,
Good choice, of course I'm biased since I have a 2004 Dodge, but with the auto. I think the Cummins is the best diesel in a pickup, you can't go wrong with it and a 6 speed. I have the short bed quad cab 4X4 SLT. It's a great truck, I've had zero problems in 1 year and 31,000 miles.
Posted 2005-05-20 1:02 PM (#646 - in reply to #632) Subject: RE: Truck Buying Time
Posts: 7
Location: Iowa
CRK,
I don't know what you are hauling, but if you are considering the 3/4 ton Dodge, you may want to consider looking at Dodge's 1 ton with single rear wheels. You get more payload for just a little bit more money. Also, it's "Cummins", not "Cummings." Someone asked about this earlier, and I didn't see any replies--the Cummins is Dodge's diesel option. It's a 5.9L turbocharged inline 6-cyl, 325 hp and 610 ft-lbs.
Posted 2005-05-20 10:08 PM (#647 - in reply to #632) Subject: RE: Truck Buying Time
Posts: 43
Location: Kennesaw, GA
If you look at my signature below you'll see what I've got. We have 30,000 miles on it now. No problems. Only wish I would have gotten 4wd. We've been stuck a 1/2 dozen times. I would definitely go with the 3500 over the 2500. It cost pennies more (really) and offers much more carrying capacity. Most 2500/250 with diesels exceed their GVWR when pulling a 3h/GN w/ living quarters. I like the SRW over the DRW for around town, too. I could only see getting a DRW if I had a monster trailer.
Posted 2005-05-22 9:28 AM (#648 - in reply to #632) Subject: RE: Truck Buying Time
Posts: 131
Location: Cheyenne, WY
Thanks everyone for your input on the trucks and spelling less
I bought a slightly used 04 Dodge 4x4 2500 SLT with the "CUMMINS" (thank you). It was a fresh local trade and barely had 20k on it. Looked at new and even with my small business discounts, (Dodge/Chrysler had the best by the way) it was more cost effective for me to go the route of used.
Again, thanks for all the input. I actually used most of it in my buying decision.
Posted 2005-05-24 9:09 PM (#649 - in reply to #632) Subject: RE: Truck Buying Time
Posts: 8
Location: Milford, Ohio
good decision!!
as you can tell i am a huge cummins fan. it is an awesome engine. another good thing dodge offers with the 6-spd is an exhaust brake that they warranty. in 2006 they will warrant the jacobs exhaust break on the autos. the NV-5600 6-speed transmission is a proven well built tranny. will hold up to just about anything you can throw at it. in 2005.5 they introduced the new getrag 6-speed manual tranny. little soon but im sure it will also be a great tranny.
the 48re auto that replaced the 47re auto in 2003 has been doing real well. not nearly as many problems as the old 47re autos.