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candace
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2005-05-09 9:29 AM (#650)
Subject: trucks & hauling





Posts: 17

Location: maryland

hi,

i know this has been talked about before but want to make sure i get it right.  I am looking for a new truck.  right now i only have a 2 horse bumper pull trailer.  sometime in the future i plan on purchasing  a 2-3 horse gooseneck with a small living quarters.  i am planning on getting a 1 ton dually with 4wd.  I am looking for one with the extended cab not the full passenger seat and no full sized passenger doors.  Will the bed of this type of truck ( chevy or GMC) be okay to haul the bigger trailer?  i wasnt sure if all the dually's have the same length bed & if this size would be okay for the future trailer.  thanks for any info. 

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bjhouten
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2005-05-09 11:04 AM (#651 - in reply to #650)
Subject: RE: trucks & hauling






Posts: 269

Location: Lucas, TX
I towed a 3H, 7 wide Exiss with a 8ft living quarters with a 3/4 chevy
duramax, crew cab, short bed with no problems at all.

I am now towing a 8 wide, 3H, CM w/ 10LQ 3 horse with a chevy 1-ton dually crew cab, long bed, duramax, also with no problem. I know people pull this size trailer with 3/4 ton, but it makes me cringe. ;-)

I think the short bed makes backing easier, but the long bed is nice for
other reasons. I don't think you can get a chevy 1-ton dually with a short bed. I think Dodge makes a short bed dually.

I highly recommend the crew cab if you can fit it in your budget. It is
WONDERFUL having the extra room even if you don't haul that many people
with you.

BTW: I just got a Powerchip to improve my gas milage. On a half tank with it, I improved 1.5 MPG. (towing above CM trailer) I'm working on my second tank currently and it looking like a 2 MPG improvement.

-Betty
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hosspuller
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2005-05-09 11:08 AM (#652 - in reply to #650)
Subject: RE: trucks & hauling





Posts: 1563

Location: North Carolina

It will depend on the length of bed you get.  The dually's have either the short bed (Bad) or the full 8 foot bed (Good).  I have a 3500 extended cab with the 8 foot bed.  ("Ah don't need no stink'n GN hitch extend'r)

The 4x4 is a nice feature .. but I didn't get it...  A loaded trailer is a very good anchor and I doubt, the one time I needed a tractor assist, 4wd would have got me through the muddy field.

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RichB
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2005-05-09 11:34 AM (#653 - in reply to #650)
Subject: RE: trucks & hauling






Posts: 326

Location: Palmdale, CA

Where are you guys seeing dualies with 6' beds? 

Anyways, to answer your question, you will have no problems pulling the bigger trailer with dual rear wheels.  They make the truck wider in the back but it will not interfere with the trailer. In fact you will probably prefer it. 

Some people have 1 ton trucks with single rear wheels and and a 6' bed, and prefer that.  I like the extra room an 8' bed gives and the stability of the dual wheels. 

New trucks have bed and rail heights that are higher than in the past, especially Ford. This can create problems when towing an older GN trailer that doesn't have an adjustable GN.   So make sure that the trailer you want will sit nice and level hooked up to the truck you want.   You want at least 6+ inches of clearance between the top of your bed rail and the botton of gooseneck/trailer  frame.  You will need this clearance to keep your trailer from smashing your bed rails when you go over deep dips, driveways and uneven terrain.



Edited by RichB 2005-05-09 11:43 AM
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candace
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2005-05-09 1:08 PM (#654 - in reply to #650)
Subject: RE: trucks & hauling





Posts: 17

Location: maryland

THANKS ALL FOR THE ADVICE.  I WANTED TO GET THE ONE THAT IS "EXTENDED" CAB ( I GUESS THAT IS WHAT YOU CALL IT)  TO HAVE A LITTLE EXTRA ROOM, BUT NOT MAKE THE TRUCK SOOO BIG.  I THOUGHT I NEEDED THE 4WD B/C I NOW HAVE THE 2 HORSE BUMPER PULL AND HAD TO USE THE 4WD ON MY 1/2 TON TRUCK AND IT WASNT REALLY EVEN THAT MUDDY OR HILLY OR ANYTHING. 

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hosspuller
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2005-05-09 1:52 PM (#655 - in reply to #650)
Subject: RE: trucks & hauling





Posts: 1563

Location: North Carolina
Originally written by candace on 2005-05-09 2:08 AM

I THOUGHT I NEEDED THE 4WD B/C I NOW HAVE THE 2 HORSE BUMPER PULL AND HAD TO USE THE 4WD ON MY 1/2 TON TRUCK AND IT WASNT REALLY EVEN THAT MUDDY OR HILLY OR ANYTHING. 

I always thought if I needed 4wd the mistake was already made ... Don't drive into those sort of places with a heavy trailer... (like a 3H LQ)  maybe the two horse BP trailers could be pulled out with 4wd.

You might create a new discussion if you're on the fence with this..

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Reg
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2005-05-09 3:00 PM (#656 - in reply to #650)
Subject: RE: trucks & hauling





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For hauling gooseneck trailers the bed length isn't what matters, it is the cab to axle distance. Sure they correlate, but ca is spelled out in the spec sheet and is typically 58 to 60 inches (you need it to be at least 1/2 your trailer's nose width).

re 4WD:- NICE to have, but a limited slip ("locker") rear axle will get you most of the benefit. AWD would be BEST, but I'm not sure it is available on one tons (yet), 4WD with lim slip rear is about as much as you can get and I'm pleased I did. 2WD without a lim slip can become a 1WD rut cutter on a slight slope of wet grass (-:

Yes, you should only take a 4WD truck into where you know you could get a 2WD truck out of.
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Reg
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2005-05-09 3:06 PM (#657 - in reply to #650)
Subject: RE: trucks & hauling





Posts: 2621

Originally written by bjhouten on 2005-05-09 11:04 AM

I towed a 3H, 7 wide Exiss with a 8ft living quarters with a 3/4 chevy
duramax, crew cab, short bed with no problems at all.

I am now towing a 8 wide, 3H, CM w/ 10LQ 3 horse with a chevy 1-ton dually crew cab, long bed, duramax, also with no problem. I know people pull this size trailer with 3/4 ton, but it makes me cringe. ;-)

I think the short bed makes backing easier, but the long bed is nice for
other reasons. I don't think you can get a chevy 1-ton dually with a short bed. I think Dodge makes a short bed dually.

I highly recommend the crew cab if you can fit it in your budget. It is
WONDERFUL having the extra room even if you don't haul that many people
with you.

BTW: I just got a Powerchip to improve my gas milage. On a half tank with it, I improved 1.5 MPG. (towing above CM trailer) I'm working on my second tank currently and it looking like a 2 MPG improvement.

-Betty



Are you measuring the fuel consumption via the on-board computer (DIC, driver information center) ?
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chadsalt
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2005-05-09 3:13 PM (#658 - in reply to #650)
Subject: RE: trucks & hauling





Posts: 727

Location: sc
4WD, in the typical 4x4 with a LSD or "locker" rear diff, the 4 wheel will only get you one more wheel spining in the front, which in my experiance is not going to make any differance. tires will make a difference, but those that will help in a muddy field may not be the best choice for towing on the highway. as mentioned a few posts up, a loaded trailer makes a great "anchor". JMO i say take the horses out of the trailer and hook them to the front of the truck........2 more "horse power" and 8 feet more "torque".

Edited by chadsalt 2005-05-09 3:23 PM
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hav2ride
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2005-05-10 4:22 PM (#659 - in reply to #650)
Subject: RE: trucks & hauling





Posts: 1681

Location: PA
I always have 4x4's because of where I live.  I also park my trailer in the field ABOVE my barn.  Just getting thru that field can mean using the 4x4 if the grass is wet.  No way I'd ever get there with a 2x4.  Now, I try to avoid snowy conditions to haul thru but at least I know I won't get stuck!!  Go with the 1T dually, extended cab if you must, long bed prefered. 
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krys
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2005-05-11 9:37 AM (#660 - in reply to #650)
Subject: RE: trucks & hauling



Plain ole Member


Posts: 36

Location: Oregon
I would never own anything but a 4WD. I have used mine on freshly graveled roads pulling my trailer. Wouldn't have gotten anywhere with 2WD.
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bjhouten
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2005-05-11 4:10 PM (#661 - in reply to #650)
Subject: RE: trucks & hauling






Posts: 269

Location: Lucas, TX
Originally written by Reg on 2005-05-09 3:06 PM

Are you measuring the fuel consumption via the on-board computer (DIC, driver information center) ?


I'm keeping track by hand. The DIC is close, but there has been some differences.

-Betty

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crowleysridgegirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2005-05-14 9:45 AM (#662 - in reply to #650)
Subject: RE: trucks & hauling





Posts: 244

We got stuck 2-3 times with our GMC HD(3/4T) W/out 4x4,and NOT in places you'd think beforehand "We might get stuck there."All times were just on slight grassy inclines that were wet.The front end was heavy and we couldn't get out,and we weren't pulling a thing.My husband said,when buying his 2nd 3/4T (F250) that he wouldn't have another one without the 4x4.This was after neighbor pulled him out driving HIS f250 4x4 I might add.
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inWA
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2005-05-14 10:20 AM (#663 - in reply to #650)
Subject: RE: trucks & hauling





Posts: 105

The probem in westeren Washington is light rain/grass/soft ground. When you pull into some places and you look where they want you to park some times you shudder. Once you start spinning on wet grass here come the ruts. No gas or so little gas makes the world go better in places like this, also load when on firm ground. I really got this pounded into me while working for the army in the summer and was working on fire suppresion crews, 5000 gallon water tankers in the woods on logging roads require a soft touch. Even when have ten drive wheels!
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